Kevin Patrick Mostyn Family - Person Sheet
Kevin Patrick Mostyn Family - Person Sheet
NameEgbert Count In Saxony, 35G Grandfather
Spouses
1Ida Of Autun, 35G Grandmother
FatherThierry Count Of Autun (~730->791)
MotherAude Of Austrasia (~732-<804)
ChildrenCobbo (->845)
Matilda Of Herford (->909)
Web Notes notes for Egbert Count In Saxony
Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (338:39): Echbert "the Loyal," a Saxon nobleman conquered by Charlemagne, 783; a count in the Ittergau, living 834.
Noted genealogist David Kelly is convinced that this Count Egbert is none other than KING EGBERT of the Saxon line in England. He has not been able to find general agreement among his peers.
Matman posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL: on 15 April 1997:
. . . "I can only refer back to the same article [E. Hlawitschka, in Rheinische Vierteljarhrblatter, 1974, p141ff]: there was a family in Saxony at this time who historians call the Egbertiner or Cobbonen after their most distinguished members. The details about Ida and Egbert's family come from two sources: her Life (written 980/3) and the Translatio S.Pusinnae (c.860/77). St.Ida was the founder of Herford, a convent in Saxony. Her Life calls Egbert duke of all Saxony between the Rhine and the Weser appointed by Charlemagne. A count Egbert appears in the Royal Frankish annals in 809 and 811 concerned with the boundary between Saxony and the Denmark. Their children included Warin abbot of Corvey 826-56, and Count Cobbo the Elder (d. fl 845), and Addila abbess
of Herford. This family continued to be important in Saxony in the 10th century. . . . Ida is said to be the daughter of a Frankish count (though Hlawitschka tries to make her a daughter of Carloman I d.771, wrongly I think). As Egbert of Wessex became king in 802 (?), it would seem unlikely that he
could have two different careers in two different countries, at the same time. Unless the ASC date 802 is wrong."
Noted genealogist David Kelly is convinced that this Count Egbert is none other than KING EGBERT of the Saxon line in England. He has not been able to find general agreement among his peers.
Matman posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL: on 15 April 1997:
. . . "I can only refer back to the same article [E. Hlawitschka, in Rheinische Vierteljarhrblatter, 1974, p141ff]: there was a family in Saxony at this time who historians call the Egbertiner or Cobbonen after their most distinguished members. The details about Ida and Egbert's family come from two sources: her Life (written 980/3) and the Translatio S.Pusinnae (c.860/77). St.Ida was the founder of Herford, a convent in Saxony. Her Life calls Egbert duke of all Saxony between the Rhine and the Weser appointed by Charlemagne. A count Egbert appears in the Royal Frankish annals in 809 and 811 concerned with the boundary between Saxony and the Denmark. Their children included Warin abbot of Corvey 826-56, and Count Cobbo the Elder (d. fl 845), and Addila abbess
of Herford. This family continued to be important in Saxony in the 10th century. . . . Ida is said to be the daughter of a Frankish count (though Hlawitschka tries to make her a daughter of Carloman I d.771, wrongly I think). As Egbert of Wessex became king in 802 (?), it would seem unlikely that he
could have two different careers in two different countries, at the same time. Unless the ASC date 802 is wrong."