Kevin Patrick Mostyn Family - Person Sheet
Kevin Patrick Mostyn Family - Person Sheet
NameRobert DE LACY 1st Baron Pontefract, 28G Grandfather
FatherIlbert DE LACY Lord Of Pontefract (~1045-~1093)
MotherHawise (~1045-)
Web Notes notes for Robert DE LACY 1st Baron Pontefract
From W E Wightman, "The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194":
W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194*,
genealogical chart following p 260. (p.59): "Robert I succeeded his father Ilbert as head of the family, probably between 1091 and 1100. Almost as little is known about his career as about that of his father. The date of his birth cannot even be guessed, and the date of his death is uncertain. He was alive during the time of Thomas II, archbishop of York (1108-13). He was dead by 1129, when Robert de Lisours paid L12. 9s. 4d. for permission to marry Robert de Lacy's daughter Aubrey. .....
Robert's wife was called Matilda. She survived into Stephens's reign, and perhaps even until 1155. They had three sons whose existence can be proved, as well as a daughter, Aubrey. Ilbert II succeeded Robert I, and Henry succeeded Ilbert when the latter died apparently childless. A third unnamed son was killed at the battle of the Standard, 22 August 1138, and was the only Anglo-Norman knight killed. Robert also had a son of his own name."
(pp. 60, 61, 63): "Robert I was the first member of the family to found a monastery of his own. ..... Robert I was responsible for the foundation of the Cluniac priory of St. John, Pontefract, at some time during the reign of William I. ..... Robert I seems to have been an energetic founder and builder, for in addition to his ecclesiastical foundations he was probably responsible for the building of the Lacy castle at Clitheroe. There is no real evidence whatever for the suggestion sometimes advanced that Roger of Poitou built it." (pp. 66, 67, 68, 72):
"Round about 1114 Robert I was banished from his English estates, though apparently not from those in Normandy, since his son was still in possession of his share of the lands there in 1133. The honour was granted to Hugh de Laval not later than 1118 ..... Although there is no evidence to connect him with England before he received Pontefract, Hugh seems to have regarded himself as the heir of the Lacy family and to have behaved much like any ordinary tenant-in-chief, unlike his immediate successor [William] Maltravers. ..... Maltravers
was nothing more than an efficient lay administrator and financier who had risen in the service of the king in much the same way as Payn fitz John in the West Midlands. Payn was, however, a member of the lesser nobility; of Maltravers's origin nothing is known. He owed his position entirely to his abilities and to the king's recognition of them, to such an extent that by 1130 he had become a man of considerable substance. ..... The manner of his death has long been known, since the tale was told by Richard of Hexham.
As soon as Henry I was dead, Maltravers was killed by a knight of the honour, and the way was open for the return to Pontefract of Ilbert II de Lacy. As an upstart who took no interest in the affairs of his barony save for what he could extract to recoup the sums he had paid for it, Maltravers must have incurred the dislike of established honorial barons like William Foliot and Roger Peitevin. They were the men who would suffer in pocket from his demands, and who would despise a man who could not be regarded as their lord and leader in the same way as a genuine member of the baronage."
W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194*,
genealogical chart following p 260. (p.59): "Robert I succeeded his father Ilbert as head of the family, probably between 1091 and 1100. Almost as little is known about his career as about that of his father. The date of his birth cannot even be guessed, and the date of his death is uncertain. He was alive during the time of Thomas II, archbishop of York (1108-13). He was dead by 1129, when Robert de Lisours paid L12. 9s. 4d. for permission to marry Robert de Lacy's daughter Aubrey. .....
Robert's wife was called Matilda. She survived into Stephens's reign, and perhaps even until 1155. They had three sons whose existence can be proved, as well as a daughter, Aubrey. Ilbert II succeeded Robert I, and Henry succeeded Ilbert when the latter died apparently childless. A third unnamed son was killed at the battle of the Standard, 22 August 1138, and was the only Anglo-Norman knight killed. Robert also had a son of his own name."
(pp. 60, 61, 63): "Robert I was the first member of the family to found a monastery of his own. ..... Robert I was responsible for the foundation of the Cluniac priory of St. John, Pontefract, at some time during the reign of William I. ..... Robert I seems to have been an energetic founder and builder, for in addition to his ecclesiastical foundations he was probably responsible for the building of the Lacy castle at Clitheroe. There is no real evidence whatever for the suggestion sometimes advanced that Roger of Poitou built it." (pp. 66, 67, 68, 72):
"Round about 1114 Robert I was banished from his English estates, though apparently not from those in Normandy, since his son was still in possession of his share of the lands there in 1133. The honour was granted to Hugh de Laval not later than 1118 ..... Although there is no evidence to connect him with England before he received Pontefract, Hugh seems to have regarded himself as the heir of the Lacy family and to have behaved much like any ordinary tenant-in-chief, unlike his immediate successor [William] Maltravers. ..... Maltravers
was nothing more than an efficient lay administrator and financier who had risen in the service of the king in much the same way as Payn fitz John in the West Midlands. Payn was, however, a member of the lesser nobility; of Maltravers's origin nothing is known. He owed his position entirely to his abilities and to the king's recognition of them, to such an extent that by 1130 he had become a man of considerable substance. ..... The manner of his death has long been known, since the tale was told by Richard of Hexham.
As soon as Henry I was dead, Maltravers was killed by a knight of the honour, and the way was open for the return to Pontefract of Ilbert II de Lacy. As an upstart who took no interest in the affairs of his barony save for what he could extract to recoup the sums he had paid for it, Maltravers must have incurred the dislike of established honorial barons like William Foliot and Roger Peitevin. They were the men who would suffer in pocket from his demands, and who would despise a man who could not be regarded as their lord and leader in the same way as a genuine member of the baronage."