Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (54:28), (125:29). The eldest son of Saher IV and MARGARET was ROBERT II, who was knighted in 1213, when his father was granted an aid from his tenants for that purpose. If the grant of knighthood to ROBERT II took place about the age of twenty, he must have been born about 1193 and his parents might have married about 1190. Robert did not inherit the earldom of Winchester because he was in rebellion at the time of his father's death.