Kevin Patrick Mostyn Family - Person Sheet
Kevin Patrick Mostyn Family - Person Sheet
NameHumbert 'Whitehands' DE MAURIENNE Count Of Savoy, 29G Grandfather
FatherHumbert Of Burgundy (~928-~976)
Web Notes notes for Humbert 'Whitehands' DE MAURIENNE Count Of Savoy
He was the founder of the great House of Savoy. The LDS AF shows Gerald of Geneva as his father and Ancelia Von Lenz as his mother. The "Dictionary of Royal Lineage" shows his father as AMADEUS I, but. . . Stewart Baldwin posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 1 Nov 1996 (in part): Subject: Re: SAVOY, that this link is doubtful. Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (173:35) shows his parents as Humbert & "perhaps" a dau. of Amadeo of Spoleto. Right now, the best I can do is call his parentage "Unknown".
Don Stone posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL@@rootsweb.com on 03 Oct 1997 (in part):
Subject: Re: Friburge, dau. of Richard of Vienne?
"Moriarty's _Plantagenet Ancestry_ covers the Counts of Maurienne and Savoy on pp. 58-9 and 236-8. Moriarty says "The parentage and ancestry of the Conte Bianca Mano [Humbert I], the Burgundian stammvater of the great House of Savoy, has been the object of intensive study by Italian, German, French and English scholars, but nothing conclusive has been established." On pp. 236-8, Moriarty outlines three different theories of Humbert's ancestry. One of them, due to C. Previte-Orton, gives Humbert a descent from Charles Constantine, about which Moriarty is quite skeptical. The other two theories, due to Abbe Chaume and Georges de Manteyer, make Humbert either a grandson or a great-grandson of Hugh, Count of Vienne, d. ca. 948 or 966, son of Garnier, Vicomte of Sens, Count of Troyes, d. 925."
Europaische Stammtafeln ii, 190:
Humbert I "Bianca Mano" Count of Aosta. Born 0985 of Savoy, France. Died 1048. Count of Aosta, 1025, and Maurienne, 1027. He married. . . Auxilia of Noyen, Before 1030.
Christopher Cope, in his book, "The Lost Kingdom of Burgundy", writes under the heading, 'The beginnings of Savoy' : "The House of Savoy emerged into history with the title of Counts of Maurienne around 1000. They gained Savoy and other territories during the eleventh century. They prospered largely because almost alone of the Burgundian nobles Count Hubert White Hands backed the German conquerers against his own sovereign, Rudolph III; and his son [sic. - even his own genealogical tables show him as Humbert's grandson] AMADEUS II accompanied the EMPEROR
HENRY III into Lombardy and became a good friend of his so that when they parted HENRY gave him the city of Asti in memory of the many jars of foaming wine they had emptied together. This happy episode forged the link between the House of Savoy and Italy which was broken only in 1948."
soc.genealogy.medieval on 1 Nov 1996 (in part): Subject: Re: SAVOY, that this link is doubtful. Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (173:35) shows his parents as Humbert & "perhaps" a dau. of Amadeo of Spoleto. Right now, the best I can do is call his parentage "Unknown".
Don Stone posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL@@rootsweb.com on 03 Oct 1997 (in part):
Subject: Re: Friburge, dau. of Richard of Vienne?
"Moriarty's _Plantagenet Ancestry_ covers the Counts of Maurienne and Savoy on pp. 58-9 and 236-8. Moriarty says "The parentage and ancestry of the Conte Bianca Mano [Humbert I], the Burgundian stammvater of the great House of Savoy, has been the object of intensive study by Italian, German, French and English scholars, but nothing conclusive has been established." On pp. 236-8, Moriarty outlines three different theories of Humbert's ancestry. One of them, due to C. Previte-Orton, gives Humbert a descent from Charles Constantine, about which Moriarty is quite skeptical. The other two theories, due to Abbe Chaume and Georges de Manteyer, make Humbert either a grandson or a great-grandson of Hugh, Count of Vienne, d. ca. 948 or 966, son of Garnier, Vicomte of Sens, Count of Troyes, d. 925."
Europaische Stammtafeln ii, 190:
Humbert I "Bianca Mano" Count of Aosta. Born 0985 of Savoy, France. Died 1048. Count of Aosta, 1025, and Maurienne, 1027. He married. . . Auxilia of Noyen, Before 1030.
Christopher Cope, in his book, "The Lost Kingdom of Burgundy", writes under the heading, 'The beginnings of Savoy' : "The House of Savoy emerged into history with the title of Counts of Maurienne around 1000. They gained Savoy and other territories during the eleventh century. They prospered largely because almost alone of the Burgundian nobles Count Hubert White Hands backed the German conquerers against his own sovereign, Rudolph III; and his son [sic. - even his own genealogical tables show him as Humbert's grandson] AMADEUS II accompanied the EMPEROR
HENRY III into Lombardy and became a good friend of his so that when they parted HENRY gave him the city of Asti in memory of the many jars of foaming wine they had emptied together. This happy episode forged the link between the House of Savoy and Italy which was broken only in 1948."