Kevin Patrick Mostyn Family - Person Sheet
Kevin Patrick Mostyn Family - Person Sheet
NameRobert King Of France, 32G Grandfather
FatherRobert 'the Strong' Duke Of Neustria (~820-866)
MotherAdelaide Of Tours (~819-~866)
Spouses
1Beatrix Of Vermandois, 32G Grandmother
FatherHerbert DE VERMANDOIS Count Of Senlis (~840-902)
MotherBertha Countess Of Morvois (~862-)
ChildrenHugh 'the Great' (~895-956)
2Adele, 32G Grandmother
ChildrenAdela (>887-~931)
Web Notes notes for Robert King Of France
Younger son of Robert the Strong of Neustria, and briefly king of France (922-923), or West Francia. His decisive victory over the Northmen at Chartres (911) led to a treaty settling one group of these fierce warriors in Normandy.
Robert faithfully served his older brother, King Eudes, during Eudes's reign (888-898). Though on Eudes's death he became one of the most powerful Frankish lords, inheriting all the family lands between the Seine and the Loire rivers, he swore fealty with other magnates to the new king, the Carolingian Charles III the Simple. Nevertheless, he was already served in his domains by viscounts, officials usually regarded as instruments of regal power. From 911 onward, his role became more decisive: his defeat of the Northmen at Chartres paved the way for the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte, by which Charles assigned them territory in Normandy.
Robert's military success greatly enhanced his prestige, and dissension between him and the King became undisguised. When Charles III imprudently offered preferment exclusively to lords from Lorraine, the Neustrian lords, led by Robert, broke into open revolt. They elected Robert king at Reims in June 922. In a battle near Soissons a year later, Charles's army was routed, but Robert was killed. His grandson was Hugh Capet, founder of the Capetian dynasty.
Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (48:18). Born posthumously 866, Count of Poitiers, Count of Paris, Marquis of Neustria, King of West Franks (France); m.(1) Aelis; m.(2) BEATRIX, as I have shown here. Also mentioned (50:18), (53:18), (101:18), (136:18).
Nat Taylor posted the following to the soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroups on 4 Nov 1995 :
"It would seem that it was Robert's first wife, Adele, not Beatrix, who was Hildebrante's mother. This was a double marriage alliance concluded between King Robert and Herbert II of Vermandois; Robert was married to Beatrice "in or by the late 890's" (Andrew W. Lewis, _Royal Succession in Capetian France (Harvard, 1981), p. 11); Herbert II had married Robert's daughter by 907 (ibid.). This double alliance strengthened the relationship of the two houses; the Vermandois counts had previously supported the Carolingians (Charles the Simple) against king Odo; but in 922 Vermandois supported Robert's successful bid for the throne. See also Jean Dunbabbin, _France in the Making, 843-1180 (Oxford, 1985), p. 95.
Robert faithfully served his older brother, King Eudes, during Eudes's reign (888-898). Though on Eudes's death he became one of the most powerful Frankish lords, inheriting all the family lands between the Seine and the Loire rivers, he swore fealty with other magnates to the new king, the Carolingian Charles III the Simple. Nevertheless, he was already served in his domains by viscounts, officials usually regarded as instruments of regal power. From 911 onward, his role became more decisive: his defeat of the Northmen at Chartres paved the way for the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte, by which Charles assigned them territory in Normandy.
Robert's military success greatly enhanced his prestige, and dissension between him and the King became undisguised. When Charles III imprudently offered preferment exclusively to lords from Lorraine, the Neustrian lords, led by Robert, broke into open revolt. They elected Robert king at Reims in June 922. In a battle near Soissons a year later, Charles's army was routed, but Robert was killed. His grandson was Hugh Capet, founder of the Capetian dynasty.
Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (48:18). Born posthumously 866, Count of Poitiers, Count of Paris, Marquis of Neustria, King of West Franks (France); m.(1) Aelis; m.(2) BEATRIX, as I have shown here. Also mentioned (50:18), (53:18), (101:18), (136:18).
Nat Taylor posted the following to the soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroups on 4 Nov 1995 :
"It would seem that it was Robert's first wife, Adele, not Beatrix, who was Hildebrante's mother. This was a double marriage alliance concluded between King Robert and Herbert II of Vermandois; Robert was married to Beatrice "in or by the late 890's" (Andrew W. Lewis, _Royal Succession in Capetian France (Harvard, 1981), p. 11); Herbert II had married Robert's daughter by 907 (ibid.). This double alliance strengthened the relationship of the two houses; the Vermandois counts had previously supported the Carolingians (Charles the Simple) against king Odo; but in 922 Vermandois supported Robert's successful bid for the throne. See also Jean Dunbabbin, _France in the Making, 843-1180 (Oxford, 1985), p. 95.