30th Generation

536870912 Rhys Sais AP EDNYFED.  Born bef 1030. Rhys Sais died in 1073. AKA: Sais = Saxon, Or Englishman, A Term Of Abuse In Welsh.153

Web Notes: The late Mr. Alfred Neobard Palmer, in his Notes on the Earlyh History of Bangor Is y Coed (1) and in a very able paper on Welsh Settlements, East of offa's Dyke during the Eleventh Century (2) has made out a good case for the recovery of portions of the lands held by Tudur Trefor by Rhys Sais and his family. He says (3):
"It is possible to give the name of the Welsh lord who about this time [some years before 1086] seized the greater part of the parish of Bangor. This was no other than Elidyr ap Rhys Sais. His father, Rhys Sais, a descendant of Lluddoccaf, one of the sons of Tudor Trefor, was already in possession of most of the country about Chirk and Whittington, and before the coming of the Normans had got possession of Erbistock (4). . . .It was the lands of St. Chad [which Leofric of Mercia had granted in 1043] that Elidyr appear for the most part to have seized."
(1) Y Cymmrodor, X. (1889), p. 12 &c.
(2) Ibid., p. 29 &c.
(3) Ibid., X. (1889), p. 25.
(4) Mr. Palmer says that Rhys Sais seems to have held his English lands under the Earl of Mercia (Y Cymmrodor, X., p. 25, n. 6), which would satisfactorily account for the epithet "Sais." Before the end of the eleventh century the Mercians and Welsh had, to some extent, become allies.143

Rhys Sais also held Dudleston, part of the hundred of Merset in Oswestry, which passed to Rhys's 3rd son, Iddon.69

Rhys Sais, son of Ednyfed ap Llywarch Gam, died, according to all accounts, in 1073. He held parts of Oswestry, all of Whittington, Maelor Gymraeg (or at least half of it), besides adjacent territory, including Nanheudwy in which is Pengwern, Llangollen, where Rhys Sais and his ancestors back to Tudur, according to tradition, dwelt. It is not known for certain who Rhys Sais married. Her name, according to some pedigrees, was Eva, daughter of Gruffydd Hir; but the latter in several MSS. has been confused with a person of the same name who flourished much later. Rhys, according to most pedigrees, had issue: Tudur [an ancestor], Elidyr [also an ancestor], and Iddon (Dwnn adds Bleddyn); and Generis, wife of Ednowain ap Ithel.154

Rhys Sais married Efa VCH GRUFFYDD.

They had the following children:
268435456 i. Tudur (~1060->1101)
ii. Generis
268435464 iii. Elidyr (->1081)
iv. Iddon

536870913 Efa VCH GRUFFYDD. AKA: Of Denbighshire, Wales.

Web Notes: It is not known for certain who Rhys Sais married. Her name, according to some pedigrees, was Eva, daughter of Gruffydd Hir; but the latter in several MSS. has been confused with a person of the same name who flourished much later.154

536870914 Rhys Fychan.

Child:
268435457 i. Sioned

536870916 Idnerth AP MAREDUDD HÊN. AKA: Of Byuallt.

Child:
268435458 i. Llywelyn

536870928 Rhys Sais AP EDNYFED. (Same as ahnentafel number 536870912.)

536870929 Efa VCH GRUFFYDD. (Same as ahnentafel number 536870913.)

536870930 Lles AP IDNERTH. AKA: Of Maesbrook, Kinnerley, Shropshire, England.

Lles married Mallt VCH MADOG.

They had one child:
268435465 i. Nest

536870931 Mallt VCH MADOG. AKA: Of Maelienydd, Radnorshire, Wales.

536871424 Madog AP MAREDUDD Prince Of Powys. (Same as ahnentafel number 33564936.)

536871425 Susanna VCH GRUFFYDD. (Same as ahnentafel number 33564937.)

536871426 Owain Fawr AP GRUFFYDD Prince Of Gwynedd. (Same as ahnentafel number 67125248.)

536871427 Christina VCH GORONWY. (Same as ahnentafel number 67125249.)

536871432 Liulf DE AUDLEY.

Child:
268435716 i. Adam (1145-1203)

536871434 Ralph FITZORM. AKA: Of Darlaston.

Child:
268435717 i. Emma (~1150-)

536871436 Roger LE MESNIL WARIN.

Child:
268435718 i. Ralph

536871438 Hugh DE MESCHINES 6th Earl Of Chester. (Same as ahnentafel number 23580698.)

536871439 Wife Of Hugh.

Wife Of Hugh married Hugh DE MESCHINES 6th Earl Of Chester.

They had the following children:
268435719 i. Amicia Of Chester
ii. Daughter Of Hugh Of Chester

536871552 Guy LE STRANGE.  Born in 1048. Guy died in 1105. AKA: Estrange.

Child:
268435776 i. Roland (1085-1158)

536871554 Ralph DE HUNSTANTON.144 AKA: Fitzherluin.

Ralph married Helewisa DE PLAIZ144.

They had one child:
268435777 i. Matilda (~1088-~1150)

536871555 Helewisa DE PLAIZ.144

536871576 Harold DE EWYAS.155  Harold died aft 1115. Occupation: Lord Of Sudeley & Ewyas Harold.

Child:
268435788 i. Robert (->1147)

536872976 Cynwrig AP CYNDDELW.  Born abt 0886 in North Wales.

Children:
536872996 i. Marchan
536880140 ii. Pyll
268436488 iii. Gweirydd (~0936-)

536872984 Gwerystan AP GWAETHVOED Lord Of Powys.

Children:
536880561 i. Ellenor
1074016265 ii. Daughter Of Gwerystan
268436492 iii. Cynfyn (->1023)

536872986 Maredudd AP OWAIN Prince Of Deheubarth.  Born abt 0938 in Llandilo, Wales. Maredudd died in 0999. Occupation: Ruled 986-999.

Maredudd married Astritha.

They had the following children:
i. Cadwallon
268436493 ii. Angharad (~0982-)
536880547 iii. Lleucu (~0972-)

536872987 Astritha.

536872988 Blaidd Rhudd. Born abt 0968. AKA: Of Gest, Dolbenmaen, Caernarvonshire, Wales.

Child:
268436494 i. Cilin (~0993-)

536872992 Elystan AP GWAITHVOED.

Child:
268436496 i. Morgeneu

536872996 Marchan AP CYNWRIG. AKA: Of Llewenny.

Child:
268436498 i. Rhys Of Dyfrynclwyd


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